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		<title>By: Rammstein</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/03/30/swimming-in-tears/#comment-56183</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tobold would be kinda scary if he weren&#039;t so incompetent.

I actually thought Gevlon&#039;s post was somewhat insightful on a larger scale--as long as you apply it to games that are not EVE.  That&#039;s kind of his deal, coming up with a brilliant piece of armchair psychology that perfectly describes the workings of some activity that is not the activity that he is attempting to describe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tobold would be kinda scary if he weren&#8217;t so incompetent.</p>
<p>I actually thought Gevlon&#8217;s post was somewhat insightful on a larger scale&#8211;as long as you apply it to games that are not EVE.  That&#8217;s kind of his deal, coming up with a brilliant piece of armchair psychology that perfectly describes the workings of some activity that is not the activity that he is attempting to describe.</p>
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		<title>By: Gesh</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/03/30/swimming-in-tears/#comment-56108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The said &#039;victims&#039; are the same stupid fucks, who would sue - for example - a pizza company, because they swallowed the pizza with the pizza&#039;s box and they weren&#039;t warned that they shouldn&#039;t do that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The said &#8216;victims&#8217; are the same stupid fucks, who would sue &#8211; for example &#8211; a pizza company, because they swallowed the pizza with the pizza&#8217;s box and they weren&#8217;t warned that they shouldn&#8217;t do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyss</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/03/30/swimming-in-tears/#comment-56024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lyss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 03:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi. I am a Eve newbie. Started the Game a few days ago. I dont like the Setting, I&#039;m not much a fan of the scifi stuff. 
First Time I saw EVE it looked boring, a friend of mine urged me to try it and I did, It was broing as hell, it was ugly and I stopped &quot;playing&quot; before I even got out of the tutorial.

The only reason i&#039;m back and playing now is the Mittani. 

I read about the Fanfest on massivly, and decided there that the Mittani is either a Douchebag, or a fucking idiot for giving out the ingame name of someone and tell his minions to harass him. Even if he was drunk and it could be seen as a joke. It was naive to think there would be no outbreak. Especially idiotic for someone who calls himself spymaster.

Although i didnt play eve I found  this blog via gevlons blog over there in the green corner. I read the post about the incident and the comments, and decided that Syncaine is a douchebag as well, or a Idiot for his views about suicidal and or depressed people.  
Now I knew there had to be some drama going on over there at the eve forums and I couldnt resist and started reading. 

And what I read was awesome. The playerbase which I always thought had to be hardened players given the nature of eve whined harder then the retarded roleplayers over in the kiddy section of the wowroleplaying servers. And for what? Because some guy made an ass out of himself in public, and the slight chance there was some other guy who would kill himself.  Which would be tragic and unnecessary. 

So I started reading what was it that made this guy so special that theres a shitstorm over some idiotic comment except the fact that he leads a corp, a big corp with, well, bees in it (yes I knew nothing of eve or the goons, nothing much).  

It got even more awesome. I spend quite some time reading up on all thats happened and what players had to say, I learned what the csm Is, who the Mittani really is, and why all goons are douchebags. EVE drama really is awesome.

At the end I decided, a game where this could happen, I had to play.  

All this opportunities, finally I could not only disagree with a player, no, I could wipe him, his smug face and all of his friends from the face of my game if he annoys me to much. 


On a sidenote i have to ask myself what was the point of gevlons year long &quot;social studies&quot; in wow where you could not study properly because the experiment is tainted with limitations by the worlds gods, where right around the corner theres eve where you could do so much more.

In the end it was Mittani who got me in the game. He and the Goons are very entertaining in what they do, regardless of my own morals and ethics, and the drama is just delicious. And if someone finds the need to rage about them I wonder how this someone doesnt get depressed about real life, where things can be way harder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. I am a Eve newbie. Started the Game a few days ago. I dont like the Setting, I&#8217;m not much a fan of the scifi stuff.<br />
First Time I saw EVE it looked boring, a friend of mine urged me to try it and I did, It was broing as hell, it was ugly and I stopped &#8220;playing&#8221; before I even got out of the tutorial.</p>
<p>The only reason i&#8217;m back and playing now is the Mittani. </p>
<p>I read about the Fanfest on massivly, and decided there that the Mittani is either a Douchebag, or a fucking idiot for giving out the ingame name of someone and tell his minions to harass him. Even if he was drunk and it could be seen as a joke. It was naive to think there would be no outbreak. Especially idiotic for someone who calls himself spymaster.</p>
<p>Although i didnt play eve I found  this blog via gevlons blog over there in the green corner. I read the post about the incident and the comments, and decided that Syncaine is a douchebag as well, or a Idiot for his views about suicidal and or depressed people.<br />
Now I knew there had to be some drama going on over there at the eve forums and I couldnt resist and started reading. </p>
<p>And what I read was awesome. The playerbase which I always thought had to be hardened players given the nature of eve whined harder then the retarded roleplayers over in the kiddy section of the wowroleplaying servers. And for what? Because some guy made an ass out of himself in public, and the slight chance there was some other guy who would kill himself.  Which would be tragic and unnecessary. </p>
<p>So I started reading what was it that made this guy so special that theres a shitstorm over some idiotic comment except the fact that he leads a corp, a big corp with, well, bees in it (yes I knew nothing of eve or the goons, nothing much).  </p>
<p>It got even more awesome. I spend quite some time reading up on all thats happened and what players had to say, I learned what the csm Is, who the Mittani really is, and why all goons are douchebags. EVE drama really is awesome.</p>
<p>At the end I decided, a game where this could happen, I had to play.  </p>
<p>All this opportunities, finally I could not only disagree with a player, no, I could wipe him, his smug face and all of his friends from the face of my game if he annoys me to much. </p>
<p>On a sidenote i have to ask myself what was the point of gevlons year long &#8220;social studies&#8221; in wow where you could not study properly because the experiment is tainted with limitations by the worlds gods, where right around the corner theres eve where you could do so much more.</p>
<p>In the end it was Mittani who got me in the game. He and the Goons are very entertaining in what they do, regardless of my own morals and ethics, and the drama is just delicious. And if someone finds the need to rage about them I wonder how this someone doesnt get depressed about real life, where things can be way harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilhelm Arcturus</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/03/30/swimming-in-tears/#comment-55958</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wilhelm Arcturus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When somebody is evil, you can do anything and feel justified.

This post just in from Mrs. Mittens on the SA forums:

&quot;Okay which one of you idiots trolled the Madison PD into coming to our house? &quot;

Apparently somebody called the local police and convinced them that Mittens was suicidal.  Of course, with his silver tongue, Mittens turned the tide.

&quot;There is no wider investigation. They thought he was suicidal. Though apparently he might have talked them into playing EVE.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When somebody is evil, you can do anything and feel justified.</p>
<p>This post just in from Mrs. Mittens on the SA forums:</p>
<p>&#8220;Okay which one of you idiots trolled the Madison PD into coming to our house? &#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently somebody called the local police and convinced them that Mittens was suicidal.  Of course, with his silver tongue, Mittens turned the tide.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no wider investigation. They thought he was suicidal. Though apparently he might have talked them into playing EVE.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kanacasul</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/03/30/swimming-in-tears/#comment-55933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kanacasul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading Tobold&#039;s blog makes me want to kill myself, will he stop blogging if I whine about it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading Tobold&#8217;s blog makes me want to kill myself, will he stop blogging if I whine about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Cyndre</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/03/30/swimming-in-tears/#comment-55912</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyndre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish I could Salvage, cloaked.  Make bank outside Jita....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could Salvage, cloaked.  Make bank outside Jita&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jaggins</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/03/30/swimming-in-tears/#comment-55878</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was all a setup for the evil ending! How diabolical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was all a setup for the evil ending! How diabolical.</p>
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		<title>By: Slow Times in Q1U-IU &#171; The Ancient Gaming Noob</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/03/30/swimming-in-tears/#comment-55816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Slow Times in Q1U-IU &#171; The Ancient Gaming Noob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] spending some time this afternoon laughing at the internet because&#8230; well&#8230; go read this, as it seems to indicate we do not all live in the same planes of reality&#8230; I realized I had [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] spending some time this afternoon laughing at the internet because&#8230; well&#8230; go read this, as it seems to indicate we do not all live in the same planes of reality&#8230; I realized I had [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tobold Defines Evil &#171; Shadow-war</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/03/30/swimming-in-tears/#comment-55812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tobold Defines Evil &#171; Shadow-war]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Swimming in Tears Share this:TwitterLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Zyref</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/03/30/swimming-in-tears/#comment-55791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zyref]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You could make a harrassment claim against CCP.

But you&#039;d have to go to international court or CCP would ignore said claim.

That being said, assuming you got players who were in the US (less than half of eve?), you could file harassment against the players.

Then the player could respond back with &quot;and if your client walked into an S&amp;M club, and subjected themselves to the goings on at said club, could he then file charges against a person in this club?&quot;

Also, at most, the victim would have to show how much &quot;pain and suffering&quot; they experienced... a nebulous term that isn&#039;t treated the same in every state. Pain and suffering is then limited by the fact that the player was low-sec or null space, and the very nature of EVE the player should have expected an attack and some kind of ransom.

Furthermore, the player subjected themselves to singing at the expense of an in-game currency. I&#039;d expect a person bringing forth such a claim would find themselves experiencing more pain and suffering in terms of embarrassment.

On a side note, watch out playing LoL or Starcraft with this player~ they&#039;ll sue you for killing their zerglings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could make a harrassment claim against CCP.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;d have to go to international court or CCP would ignore said claim.</p>
<p>That being said, assuming you got players who were in the US (less than half of eve?), you could file harassment against the players.</p>
<p>Then the player could respond back with &#8220;and if your client walked into an S&amp;M club, and subjected themselves to the goings on at said club, could he then file charges against a person in this club?&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, at most, the victim would have to show how much &#8220;pain and suffering&#8221; they experienced&#8230; a nebulous term that isn&#8217;t treated the same in every state. Pain and suffering is then limited by the fact that the player was low-sec or null space, and the very nature of EVE the player should have expected an attack and some kind of ransom.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the player subjected themselves to singing at the expense of an in-game currency. I&#8217;d expect a person bringing forth such a claim would find themselves experiencing more pain and suffering in terms of embarrassment.</p>
<p>On a side note, watch out playing LoL or Starcraft with this player~ they&#8217;ll sue you for killing their zerglings.</p>
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