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		<title>By: Wyrm</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/07/20/mainstream-dilution-core-gamer-evolution/#comment-71329</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love 30 something mothers...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love 30 something mothers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SynCaine</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/07/20/mainstream-dilution-core-gamer-evolution/#comment-70439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SynCaine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the person in question is not spending 10k, then we are not talking about the same group.

If you are trying to make the point that someone who does drop 10k on Farmville is not an idiot, well, then we will just have to disagree there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the person in question is not spending 10k, then we are not talking about the same group.</p>
<p>If you are trying to make the point that someone who does drop 10k on Farmville is not an idiot, well, then we will just have to disagree there.</p>
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		<title>By: camazotz</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/07/20/mainstream-dilution-core-gamer-evolution/#comment-70438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[camazotz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[”In fact, she is likely to only get confused and run away, because if you have the mental capacity to drop 10k on a virtual farm, I’m pretty sure you lack the mental capacity to actually play Pong, let alone anything more complex.”

I think this is an example. I would certainly agree that these social games are a waste of time, but they don’t appeal to morons….they appeal to addictive personalities. At least, the ones willing to drop 10K (which I assume is cash you refer to). 

That said, I don\’t think most of the friend I have who spam me with these inane requests while playing these games are morons, and in fact some are quite competent in Real Life (a long time time friend of mine plays Farmville and its ilk to death, but she’s otherwise not a gamer and is a behavioral therapist in real life, ironically). She is most definitely not a dumb person, quite the opposite, but she chooses her entertainment and enjoys it, and with minimal expense on her own part, so she\’s not a ”10K” person….most aren’t I suspect. 

The point, though, is that you are arbitrarily denigrating a specific subset of gamers simply because you want to see them that way, and not because they actually are (dumb, that is, not 30-something). My advice? You need to get out more, maybe hang around some 30 something moms with kids, and at least learn that they don’t bite and they aren’t any stupider than the rest of us who waste our time playing video games. And make no mistake: our preferred corner of the hobby is no less irrelevant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>”In fact, she is likely to only get confused and run away, because if you have the mental capacity to drop 10k on a virtual farm, I’m pretty sure you lack the mental capacity to actually play Pong, let alone anything more complex.”</p>
<p>I think this is an example. I would certainly agree that these social games are a waste of time, but they don’t appeal to morons….they appeal to addictive personalities. At least, the ones willing to drop 10K (which I assume is cash you refer to). </p>
<p>That said, I don\’t think most of the friend I have who spam me with these inane requests while playing these games are morons, and in fact some are quite competent in Real Life (a long time time friend of mine plays Farmville and its ilk to death, but she’s otherwise not a gamer and is a behavioral therapist in real life, ironically). She is most definitely not a dumb person, quite the opposite, but she chooses her entertainment and enjoys it, and with minimal expense on her own part, so she\’s not a ”10K” person….most aren’t I suspect. </p>
<p>The point, though, is that you are arbitrarily denigrating a specific subset of gamers simply because you want to see them that way, and not because they actually are (dumb, that is, not 30-something). My advice? You need to get out more, maybe hang around some 30 something moms with kids, and at least learn that they don’t bite and they aren’t any stupider than the rest of us who waste our time playing video games. And make no mistake: our preferred corner of the hobby is no less irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/07/20/mainstream-dilution-core-gamer-evolution/#comment-70424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s a male PvPer and we know how prone they are to sexist, racist smack talk.

If I had to choose between male PvPers and 30-something mothers .... oh just kill me now, I don&#039;t like either of your games of choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s a male PvPer and we know how prone they are to sexist, racist smack talk.</p>
<p>If I had to choose between male PvPers and 30-something mothers &#8230;. oh just kill me now, I don&#8217;t like either of your games of choice.</p>
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		<title>By: SynCaine</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/07/20/mainstream-dilution-core-gamer-evolution/#comment-70338</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SynCaine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the article stated, the cash cows that drive the train tend to be 30-something mothers. Remove them, and is Zynga a big deal? Is &#039;trying to capture that market&#039; something suits are focused on?

As someone who enjoys games, that demographic is &#039;voting&#039; directly against what I want, hence disdain. Who they are I don&#039;t honestly care, it&#039;s what they do that is the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the article stated, the cash cows that drive the train tend to be 30-something mothers. Remove them, and is Zynga a big deal? Is &#8216;trying to capture that market&#8217; something suits are focused on?</p>
<p>As someone who enjoys games, that demographic is &#8216;voting&#8217; directly against what I want, hence disdain. Who they are I don&#8217;t honestly care, it&#8217;s what they do that is the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Everblue</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/07/20/mainstream-dilution-core-gamer-evolution/#comment-70337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Everblue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep. 

But my point remains, what is about you and mothers. A simple google search unearthed several other posts with you using &quot;mother&quot; or &quot;mom&quot; as an insult. For example

http://syncaine.com/2011/10/21/my-genre-can-beat-up-your-genre/

http://syncaine.com/2011/09/22/why-hogger-is-famous/

Just wondering what it is with you, that&#039;s all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. </p>
<p>But my point remains, what is about you and mothers. A simple google search unearthed several other posts with you using &#8220;mother&#8221; or &#8220;mom&#8221; as an insult. For example</p>
<p><a href="http://syncaine.com/2011/10/21/my-genre-can-beat-up-your-genre/" rel="nofollow">http://syncaine.com/2011/10/21/my-genre-can-beat-up-your-genre/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://syncaine.com/2011/09/22/why-hogger-is-famous/" rel="nofollow">http://syncaine.com/2011/09/22/why-hogger-is-famous/</a></p>
<p>Just wondering what it is with you, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: SynCaine</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/07/20/mainstream-dilution-core-gamer-evolution/#comment-70330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SynCaine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you read the linked article?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you read the linked article?</p>
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		<title>By: Everblue</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/07/20/mainstream-dilution-core-gamer-evolution/#comment-70314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Everblue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is it with you and 30-something mothers? It comes up time and again in your posts. Why do you think that they are (i) Zynga&#039;s target audience, or (ii) morons?

Are you actually fishing for people to bite back, or do you genuinely think that women with kids must be stupid?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it with you and 30-something mothers? It comes up time and again in your posts. Why do you think that they are (i) Zynga&#8217;s target audience, or (ii) morons?</p>
<p>Are you actually fishing for people to bite back, or do you genuinely think that women with kids must be stupid?</p>
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		<title>By: Ano</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/07/20/mainstream-dilution-core-gamer-evolution/#comment-70275</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 00:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The cheering for GW2, if somewhat over-the-top at times, is also a solid sign.&quot;

I love every aspect of GW2. It removes all the annoying shit that has plagued MMO&#039;s over the past 8 years.

No enforced grouping, no ridiculous travel times, no monthly fees, no epeen loot contests, no annoying raids with antisocial assholes, no set class roles. Be whatever you want to be, play however you want. About bloody time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The cheering for GW2, if somewhat over-the-top at times, is also a solid sign.&#8221;</p>
<p>I love every aspect of GW2. It removes all the annoying shit that has plagued MMO&#8217;s over the past 8 years.</p>
<p>No enforced grouping, no ridiculous travel times, no monthly fees, no epeen loot contests, no annoying raids with antisocial assholes, no set class roles. Be whatever you want to be, play however you want. About bloody time.</p>
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		<title>By: SlothBear</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/07/20/mainstream-dilution-core-gamer-evolution/#comment-70257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SlothBear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*applause*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*applause*</p>
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