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		<title>By: [Solving the Content Problem] The Sm&#246;rg&#229;sbord: Adding different subgames for different playstyles &#124; Welcome to Spinksville!</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/08/20/eve-wormhole-space-and-how-it-can-be-used/#comment-99548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[[Solving the Content Problem] The Sm&#246;rg&#229;sbord: Adding different subgames for different playstyles &#124; Welcome to Spinksville!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 07:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in EVE. EVE isn’t my speciality, but this is syncaine’s description. The reason I count this as a separated game is that it seems perfectly possible for people who [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: SynCaine</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/08/20/eve-wormhole-space-and-how-it-can-be-used/#comment-74269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SynCaine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It depends how much you play tbh. If you play a decent amount (20-30hrs a week consistently) I think you could make a C1 or C2 work, especially if you have a second or third account. You could run the sites solo while your alt scouts the entrance for you. Fuel costs would eat into your profits, but again it comes down to how often you play, and how well you use the WH (doing PI, running sites frequently, running connecting WH sites, etc).

Its very doable, but certainly not easy. Worst case you try, fail, and end up back in empire a few (million) ISK poorer with a good story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends how much you play tbh. If you play a decent amount (20-30hrs a week consistently) I think you could make a C1 or C2 work, especially if you have a second or third account. You could run the sites solo while your alt scouts the entrance for you. Fuel costs would eat into your profits, but again it comes down to how often you play, and how well you use the WH (doing PI, running sites frequently, running connecting WH sites, etc).</p>
<p>Its very doable, but certainly not easy. Worst case you try, fail, and end up back in empire a few (million) ISK poorer with a good story.</p>
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		<title>By: wokyr</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/08/20/eve-wormhole-space-and-how-it-can-be-used/#comment-74085</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wokyr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[when I began looking for a WH to live the first time, I found a nice unoccupied C1 3 jumps from Jita, after searching for about a week.
I stayed here about 2 months, before leaving to a bigger system.
Got issues once, but discussion were enough.
So... you have a chance to do it.

But it was at a time before Tyrannis, so there were less demand,  was also lucky that the guy who wanted to more himself here agreed to leave without fight, and the another one I saw got bluffed by my lies about how I was ready to kill him.

I myself was a carebear until 1 year ago when I joined a nullsec bloc, and didn&#039;t do any PvP, and also came for others things than the open PvP world.
But be conscient than on wormhole space you are on nullsec, when in fact you&#039;re on more than nullsec (-1.0), and with no local.
It can be very dangerous, but it depend a lot on your luck and how you play...
If you want to try, do it.
But you must understand that it may not work as planned, and that you loss some ISK, so don&#039;t forget not to fly what you can&#039;t afford to lose.

Also, in case you&#039;re not sure : you MUST put your own tower here, if it&#039;s too expensive / dangerous for you to have a tower on a WH, then forget about living on a WH.
(and better avoid a small tower)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when I began looking for a WH to live the first time, I found a nice unoccupied C1 3 jumps from Jita, after searching for about a week.<br />
I stayed here about 2 months, before leaving to a bigger system.<br />
Got issues once, but discussion were enough.<br />
So&#8230; you have a chance to do it.</p>
<p>But it was at a time before Tyrannis, so there were less demand,  was also lucky that the guy who wanted to more himself here agreed to leave without fight, and the another one I saw got bluffed by my lies about how I was ready to kill him.</p>
<p>I myself was a carebear until 1 year ago when I joined a nullsec bloc, and didn&#8217;t do any PvP, and also came for others things than the open PvP world.<br />
But be conscient than on wormhole space you are on nullsec, when in fact you&#8217;re on more than nullsec (-1.0), and with no local.<br />
It can be very dangerous, but it depend a lot on your luck and how you play&#8230;<br />
If you want to try, do it.<br />
But you must understand that it may not work as planned, and that you loss some ISK, so don&#8217;t forget not to fly what you can&#8217;t afford to lose.</p>
<p>Also, in case you&#8217;re not sure : you MUST put your own tower here, if it&#8217;s too expensive / dangerous for you to have a tower on a WH, then forget about living on a WH.<br />
(and better avoid a small tower)</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/08/20/eve-wormhole-space-and-how-it-can-be-used/#comment-74084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Megan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice writeup, thank you. Looks like a good opportunity to ask a related question.
I&#039;m technically new to EVE (well, I started about 2 years ago, gave up quickly, and re-started about a month ago), but I am already eyeing wormholes. I wonder if at some point I could make myself a home in a C1. 
Reasons:
- I really like exploration, but in highsec it&#039;s a royal PITA. I don&#039;t care how much ISK I make out of a signature, it&#039;s finding and doing it that matters. And in highsec both finding things and finishing them before someone else flies in in a Tengu is rare.
- Highsec is boring and crowded, but I don&#039;t want to go into lowsec because I&#039;m a peace-loving carebear and I dislike PvP. I know you&#039;ll ask &quot;what are you doing in EVE then?&quot; I like space and internet starships.
- I&#039;m a loner in general, so even if EVE players were a likeable bunch (which they don&#039;t seem to be), I would like to have my own quiet corner to retreat to and glare at passers-by. I&#039;m considering trying to join a wormhole corp, but I doubt any corp would want a member who mostly wants to be left alone in peace and do her own things.

So... what are my chances? Do I even have a chance? If I gathered enough ISK and skill and found an unoccupied C1, how long would I last before some arsehole decided to blow me up?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice writeup, thank you. Looks like a good opportunity to ask a related question.<br />
I&#8217;m technically new to EVE (well, I started about 2 years ago, gave up quickly, and re-started about a month ago), but I am already eyeing wormholes. I wonder if at some point I could make myself a home in a C1.<br />
Reasons:<br />
- I really like exploration, but in highsec it&#8217;s a royal PITA. I don&#8217;t care how much ISK I make out of a signature, it&#8217;s finding and doing it that matters. And in highsec both finding things and finishing them before someone else flies in in a Tengu is rare.<br />
- Highsec is boring and crowded, but I don&#8217;t want to go into lowsec because I&#8217;m a peace-loving carebear and I dislike PvP. I know you&#8217;ll ask &#8220;what are you doing in EVE then?&#8221; I like space and internet starships.<br />
- I&#8217;m a loner in general, so even if EVE players were a likeable bunch (which they don&#8217;t seem to be), I would like to have my own quiet corner to retreat to and glare at passers-by. I&#8217;m considering trying to join a wormhole corp, but I doubt any corp would want a member who mostly wants to be left alone in peace and do her own things.</p>
<p>So&#8230; what are my chances? Do I even have a chance? If I gathered enough ISK and skill and found an unoccupied C1, how long would I last before some arsehole decided to blow me up?</p>
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		<title>By: wokyr</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/08/20/eve-wormhole-space-and-how-it-can-be-used/#comment-73972</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wokyr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 02:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[seems you didn&#039;t played enough on some, as you made mistakes ;)
I won&#039;t comment on C5 and C6 as I never lived on one.

C1 : yeah, they are mostly used for mining, PI, and reactions POS, it&#039;s pretty nice for industrial op and pretty safe, you can even build some capitals inside to be even more safe (kill an hostile tower, and protect yours)
however there is NOT all gas here, the best gaz are only available on C4+ ;)
also, as you can&#039;t put an orca or a BS here, it&#039;s horrible to close a static, so you are very safe, but if you see someone you don&#039;t like... you&#039;re fucked for a a few hours.

C2 : ALL have 2 statics (while no other class have 2) . and there are rules.
HS + C1 or LS + C2 or HS + C3 or HS + C4 or null + C5 or null + C6
C2 can be useful for searching something better ; get on a C2 with a C2 satic, and you&#039;ll be able to find any class quickly by collapsing the C2 or being patient, as C2 can connect to anything. this configuration is the most common for PvP activity, you also can PvP on the low sec exit., so really perfect for roaming corps.
also C2 with C3 or C4 static are pretty useful to make a shitload of money, if you master the static collapsing you can farm ad eternum, and have even the highsec access on the other static.
I live on a C2 with HS and C2 statics for 6 months, and I&#039;m still living with the money I did this... and it was 2 years ago.

C3 : these have the same money printing ability as good nullsec anomalies (like 50M isk / hour), so it&#039;s where you begin to make lots of money.
very few C3 have a high sec static, and for having lived on one, I can tell you it&#039;s a pain, as you have very often people coming from k162 to go back to empire space, so it&#039;s dangerous, and they also open your high static, so often you find your sites empty, as someone did them while you were away. and of course as there&#039;s not much of these, you have a bigger risk of being evicted.

C4 : these have double the C3 (about 100M isk /hour), they are very nice, but you need at least 2 (good) guys (or alts).
at my time, most of them were empty, as there&#039;s a shitload of them, and as they are between the easy C3 and the hard C5, not much want them, so in fact, it&#039;s pretty safe if you know what you do.
but C4 are a real pain when it comes to scanning, as you often have to probe for a while to get out ; the more you want money, the more time you&#039;ll need to go back to empire ; a C4 with C4 offer all the anomalies you want as their an infinite choice, but getting out of these will take hours. it even happened to me (twice) after scanning 3-5 WH to enter to... the first one. yeah there were NO EXIT ! and GMs said it wasn&#039;t a bug :P
go to a C4 with C2 static if you want an easy exit, but these are the most demanded, so it will be more dangerous ;)

as you say, each class have is special gameplay, but in fact every group of statics on each class have is special thing ;)
also staticmapper is shit, don&#039;t use it, eveeye is way better, i corrected the webmaster on the statics when he was doing it ;)

anyway, nice blog :)
Raid&#039;En - ex wormhole trader.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems you didn&#8217;t played enough on some, as you made mistakes ;)<br />
I won&#8217;t comment on C5 and C6 as I never lived on one.</p>
<p>C1 : yeah, they are mostly used for mining, PI, and reactions POS, it&#8217;s pretty nice for industrial op and pretty safe, you can even build some capitals inside to be even more safe (kill an hostile tower, and protect yours)<br />
however there is NOT all gas here, the best gaz are only available on C4+ ;)<br />
also, as you can&#8217;t put an orca or a BS here, it&#8217;s horrible to close a static, so you are very safe, but if you see someone you don&#8217;t like&#8230; you&#8217;re fucked for a a few hours.</p>
<p>C2 : ALL have 2 statics (while no other class have 2) . and there are rules.<br />
HS + C1 or LS + C2 or HS + C3 or HS + C4 or null + C5 or null + C6<br />
C2 can be useful for searching something better ; get on a C2 with a C2 satic, and you&#8217;ll be able to find any class quickly by collapsing the C2 or being patient, as C2 can connect to anything. this configuration is the most common for PvP activity, you also can PvP on the low sec exit., so really perfect for roaming corps.<br />
also C2 with C3 or C4 static are pretty useful to make a shitload of money, if you master the static collapsing you can farm ad eternum, and have even the highsec access on the other static.<br />
I live on a C2 with HS and C2 statics for 6 months, and I&#8217;m still living with the money I did this&#8230; and it was 2 years ago.</p>
<p>C3 : these have the same money printing ability as good nullsec anomalies (like 50M isk / hour), so it&#8217;s where you begin to make lots of money.<br />
very few C3 have a high sec static, and for having lived on one, I can tell you it&#8217;s a pain, as you have very often people coming from k162 to go back to empire space, so it&#8217;s dangerous, and they also open your high static, so often you find your sites empty, as someone did them while you were away. and of course as there&#8217;s not much of these, you have a bigger risk of being evicted.</p>
<p>C4 : these have double the C3 (about 100M isk /hour), they are very nice, but you need at least 2 (good) guys (or alts).<br />
at my time, most of them were empty, as there&#8217;s a shitload of them, and as they are between the easy C3 and the hard C5, not much want them, so in fact, it&#8217;s pretty safe if you know what you do.<br />
but C4 are a real pain when it comes to scanning, as you often have to probe for a while to get out ; the more you want money, the more time you&#8217;ll need to go back to empire ; a C4 with C4 offer all the anomalies you want as their an infinite choice, but getting out of these will take hours. it even happened to me (twice) after scanning 3-5 WH to enter to&#8230; the first one. yeah there were NO EXIT ! and GMs said it wasn&#8217;t a bug :P<br />
go to a C4 with C2 static if you want an easy exit, but these are the most demanded, so it will be more dangerous ;)</p>
<p>as you say, each class have is special gameplay, but in fact every group of statics on each class have is special thing ;)<br />
also staticmapper is shit, don&#8217;t use it, eveeye is way better, i corrected the webmaster on the statics when he was doing it ;)</p>
<p>anyway, nice blog :)<br />
Raid&#8217;En &#8211; ex wormhole trader.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadow</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/08/20/eve-wormhole-space-and-how-it-can-be-used/#comment-73666</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shadow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[K space makes me claustrophobic now after months of w-space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K space makes me claustrophobic now after months of w-space.</p>
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		<title>By: Everblue</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/08/20/eve-wormhole-space-and-how-it-can-be-used/#comment-73649</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Everblue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kalex

Thank you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kalex</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Sered Woollahra (@seredwoollahra)</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/08/20/eve-wormhole-space-and-how-it-can-be-used/#comment-73587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sered Woollahra (@seredwoollahra)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another important point of WH space is, that every system has environmentproperties that change how your ship may behave. Depending on the kind of star the system contains, your weapons or defenses may function different from what you are used to! This adds to the uniqueness of wh systems. More information on these environments can be found here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes#Wormhole_Environments]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another important point of WH space is, that every system has environmentproperties that change how your ship may behave. Depending on the kind of star the system contains, your weapons or defenses may function different from what you are used to! This adds to the uniqueness of wh systems. More information on these environments can be found here: <a href="http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes#Wormhole_Environments" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes#Wormhole_Environments</a></p>
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		<title>By: kalex716</title>
		<link>http://syncaine.com/2012/08/20/eve-wormhole-space-and-how-it-can-be-used/#comment-73557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kalex716]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wormhole life definitely feels like homesteading.

I feel strange when i have to go back to empire to sell or get supplies, i feel out of my element, estranged, and i don&#039;t trust anybody.

I&#039;m so used to seeing no ships on my overview (or if i do, thats bad!), that every single neut out of the corner of my eye reads as a threat.

I also know the ominous sound of a wormhole being triggered so well, that i&#039;m pretty sure it could wake me up out of a cold sleep!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wormhole life definitely feels like homesteading.</p>
<p>I feel strange when i have to go back to empire to sell or get supplies, i feel out of my element, estranged, and i don&#8217;t trust anybody.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so used to seeing no ships on my overview (or if i do, thats bad!), that every single neut out of the corner of my eye reads as a threat.</p>
<p>I also know the ominous sound of a wormhole being triggered so well, that i&#8217;m pretty sure it could wake me up out of a cold sleep!</p>
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		<title>By: kalex716</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kalex716]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You want a Drake. And you can get in one fit to do C1&#039;s with just a few weeks of training.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want a Drake. And you can get in one fit to do C1&#8242;s with just a few weeks of training.</p>
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