Proving once again that CCP, even in their failures, is making all the right moves for the genre. It’s a shame, a *damn* shame the torch ended up in the hands of Blizz after the decent start that was Vanilla.
Hats off CCP. Humility like this from the top speaks volumes about their care for community. And that’s ultimately all we have, and ever had, worth anything in this genre.
How charitable. I read that blog and thought “The difference between that and Netflix’s apology was… what?” Or Blizzard’s Dev Blogs for that matter. Talk is cheap, and internet apologies cheaper still.
Also:
For an experience that relies so much on emergence and human interaction, it’s remarkable that it’s taken us this long to actually put a face on it. Once Incarna hits its stride, EVE will be more personal, and thus more accessible to general audiences. […] We were behind the curve and it needs to be addressed for the sake of EVE’s longevity.
Not mainstream appeal, “more accessible to general audiences.” If EVE’s existing (inaccessible) population stymies that goal, do you honestly believe this CEO wouldn’t, you know, just do what he’s “apologizing” for some more? There are clearly things worth sacrificing at the alter of EVE’s longevity.
Indeed, I dunno that that any of the CPP guys would care if EVE’s existing population were replaced wholesale by octo-moms, as long as the monocles were flying off the shelf.
It is different because the Netflix apology was “Sorry we were dicks about it, but guess what. it would have happened if we were nice about it as well…Oh and here is another Fu** You…. Qwikster!”
HUGE DIFFERENCE between the Netflix apology and this one. Here he is saying we Fu**’ed up and here is how we are going to do it from now on, we are going to do our best to fix it.
I absolutely love EVE. I don’t even play much anymore to be honest, but I still keep 2 subs running because when I want to play EVE, there is *no* alternative. You gotta vote with your wallet sometimes.
As for this blog, I’m torn. Listening to your players is essential, and EVE absolutely needs an order of magnitude more development time working on it’s core (FiS) than it’s been getting. I’m glad they’re listening here, because I want to see EVE succeed and stick around for a long time.
On the other hand, you can take that too far – the player isn’t always right. Plus, it feels like he’s choosing his words far too carefully when he talks about cash stop. I mean, really, read this a couple of times:
[i]”We also didn’t do enough to assure you that this wasn’t the beginning of a “pay to win” scenario in EVE. Let me be blunt: Unless the MMO business changes radically, our virtual goods strategy for EVE Online will remain limited in scope and focus on vanity items, or as we said after the CSM visit this summer: The investment of money in EVE should not give you an unfair advantage over the investment of time.”[/i]
They’re going to *focus* on vanity items, which don’t confer an *unfair* advantage. Notice it doesn’t rule out power items or items which give a game play advantage.
Saying it is the first step. If they don’t deliver, the sub numbers will reflect that. I believe they will deliver (especially since they are talking pre-2012 for the first delivery date).
Wow that was an impressive plate of crow to eat. Takes some actual character.
Tasos could learn a thing or five.
When has Tasos ever… oh right.
Proving once again that CCP, even in their failures, is making all the right moves for the genre. It’s a shame, a *damn* shame the torch ended up in the hands of Blizz after the decent start that was Vanilla.
Hats off CCP. Humility like this from the top speaks volumes about their care for community. And that’s ultimately all we have, and ever had, worth anything in this genre.
I bet that dev blog was difficult to write.
THAT is impressive. Kudos for manning-up and admitting he screwed up, and going another step further to outline the future plans.
How charitable. I read that blog and thought “The difference between that and Netflix’s apology was… what?” Or Blizzard’s Dev Blogs for that matter. Talk is cheap, and internet apologies cheaper still.
Also:
For an experience that relies so much on emergence and human interaction, it’s remarkable that it’s taken us this long to actually put a face on it. Once Incarna hits its stride, EVE will be more personal, and thus more accessible to general audiences. […] We were behind the curve and it needs to be addressed for the sake of EVE’s longevity.
Careful what you wish for, eh?
Mainstream appeal? Eve’s existing population will clear that infection right up.
Not mainstream appeal, “more accessible to general audiences.” If EVE’s existing (inaccessible) population stymies that goal, do you honestly believe this CEO wouldn’t, you know, just do what he’s “apologizing” for some more? There are clearly things worth sacrificing at the alter of EVE’s longevity.
Indeed, I dunno that that any of the CPP guys would care if EVE’s existing population were replaced wholesale by octo-moms, as long as the monocles were flying off the shelf.
It is different because the Netflix apology was “Sorry we were dicks about it, but guess what. it would have happened if we were nice about it as well…Oh and here is another Fu** You…. Qwikster!”
HUGE DIFFERENCE between the Netflix apology and this one. Here he is saying we Fu**’ed up and here is how we are going to do it from now on, we are going to do our best to fix it.
I absolutely love EVE. I don’t even play much anymore to be honest, but I still keep 2 subs running because when I want to play EVE, there is *no* alternative. You gotta vote with your wallet sometimes.
As for this blog, I’m torn. Listening to your players is essential, and EVE absolutely needs an order of magnitude more development time working on it’s core (FiS) than it’s been getting. I’m glad they’re listening here, because I want to see EVE succeed and stick around for a long time.
On the other hand, you can take that too far – the player isn’t always right. Plus, it feels like he’s choosing his words far too carefully when he talks about cash stop. I mean, really, read this a couple of times:
[i]”We also didn’t do enough to assure you that this wasn’t the beginning of a “pay to win” scenario in EVE. Let me be blunt: Unless the MMO business changes radically, our virtual goods strategy for EVE Online will remain limited in scope and focus on vanity items, or as we said after the CSM visit this summer: The investment of money in EVE should not give you an unfair advantage over the investment of time.”[/i]
They’re going to *focus* on vanity items, which don’t confer an *unfair* advantage. Notice it doesn’t rule out power items or items which give a game play advantage.
And to be fair, FFXIV did this as well (apologize). They’re still not charging. Kudos to them, too.
People are skeptical of CCP’s apology, I’m sure, but it’s still no easy chore for a CEO to come out and say “I screwed up”.
Saying it is the first step. If they don’t deliver, the sub numbers will reflect that. I believe they will deliver (especially since they are talking pre-2012 for the first delivery date).