(Stats and writeup provided by Delpez)
Supreme Cream! vs Pinoy Realm 2
|Average TH Level||7.51||7.60|
|Total Attacks Used||77||84|
|Total 3 Star Attacks||34||40|
|Total 3 Star %||44.16||47.6|
|3 Stars Against Same Level||29||24|
|3 Star % Against Same Level||47.5||40.0|
|3 Stars Against Lower Level||5||12|
|3 Star % Against Lower Level||45.5||75.0|
|TH4,5&6 3 Stars||1||4|
|TH4,5&6 3 Star %||10.0||50.0|
|TH7 3 Stars||18||19|
|TH7 3 Stars %||72.0||76.0|
|TH7 3 Stars (same level)||14||8|
|TH7 3 Stars % (same level)||93.3||100.0|
|TH8 3 Stars||13||15|
|TH8 3 Star %||39.4||36.6|
|TH8 3 Stars (same level)||12||12|
|TH8 3 Star % (same level)||37.5||32.4|
|TH8 Ave Stars / Attack (same level)||2.1||1.8|
|TH9&10 3 Stars||2||2|
|TH9&10 2 Star %||22.2||20.0|
|TH9&10 3 Stars (same level)||2||0|
|TH9&10 2 Star % (same level)||33.3||0.0|
|TH9&10 Ave Stars / Attack (same level)||1.83||1.00|
Since I’ve been tracking our wars, we’ve won 22 and lost only 7. All six previous losses were a mismatch; the opposing clan was much stronger than us (although most of those wars were still close). This is the first war in almost four months where we were beaten in a fairly even contest. Yes, our opponents were slightly stronger based on TH level and yes, in a close war small advantages can be crucial. However, as far as matchmaking is concerned, this is probably as good as it gets.
Where was this war won and lost? First have a look at the next table, showing the number of bases per TH level and the stars left behind in brackets.
|Nr of TH10||3 (6)||1 (2)|
|Nr of TH9||2 (1)||4 (2)|
|Nr of TH8||19 (2)||21 (10)|
|Nr of TH7||14||14|
|Nr of TH6||5||5|
|Nr of TH5||2||0|
|Nr of TH4||0||0|
Both clans had the same number of high level (TH9&10), TH7 and TH6 bases. The only difference was their two additional TH8 bases compared to our two TH5 bases. We left four high level stars on the table against their seven. However, we also left ten TH8 stars behind versus two. So we lost because we left too many TH8 stars behind, keeping in mind that we had two more TH8 bases to 3-star.
Looking per base, not much was happening at the lower end. There were very few bases to attack and we had two TH5 bases, along with a couple of newly promoted TH6 bases. Our TH7’s did exactly what they were supposed to do – 3 star every TH7 base and clean up after the lower level bases. What really surprised me were the TH8 stats. My general feeling throughout the war was that we were getting hammered at this level, and that feeling was reinforced by the number of stars left behind. However, our TH8’s just about edged theirs when looking at 3-star percentages and average stars per attack. Our top bases also beat theirs quite comfortably. So if the low levels and TH7’s were a draw and we performed better at TH8 and the high levels, how did we lose the war?
Basically, the opponent’s TH8’s had some help – their TH7’s managed three 3-star attacks against our TH8’s, and all three attacks were towards the end of the war when both clans were trying to mop up. Their top level bases contributed another two 3-star attacks against our TH8’s. Those five attacks resulted in six new stars in the war (they mopped up four 2-star bases and one 1-star base). This does not necessarily mean our TH8’s performed well; it just appears as though the TH8’s from both clans struggled to crack same level bases with dragons. As their TH7’s showed, it is still possible with proper tactics (the second attacks of their #30, #31 and #38 are good examples of how to crack a low TH8 base with level 2 dragons). I’m working on some numbers related to dragon attacks specifically, which I will post some time in the next few days.
To summarize, at the moment our TH7’s smash all same level and lower bases, and our top levels seem to have the edge in most wars. However, because of the large number of TH8’s, wars in the foreseeable future will be won and lost at that level. So TH8’s need to prioritize air defences, level 3 dragons and general tactics. Some help from our higher levels against opposing TH8’s could also determine the result of a close war.
Thank you for the write up Delpez.
I was really dissapointed with my performance in this war, although it did take 3 attacks to finally 3 star me.
I have now completed Drakes 3 and have 2 AA upgrading which unfortunately won’t be ready for another 7 days (time investment on these things are crazy). I wish I had upgraded the 3rd one at the same time as I am getting my pooped shoved in whenever I log out and farming is gonna be really hard for the next week. I’m loosing all DE and about 50% of anything else I farm.
Hitting TH8 has been a lot more work than hitting TH7, I am hoping upgrading to 9 isn’t such a problem but then guess the TH10’s can come down on you even harder.
My alt, who is fairly new to TH8, isn’t getting hit at all for loot. How high in trophies are you?
As for raiding, I skip all TH8s unless they have full collectors outside. Generally I hit high resource TH7s, who are much easier to barch.
it’s because 2 AA are under construction and I have about 15k in DE. Giants 5, 3-2 healers and a raging BK chew threw my defences as I havn’t upgraded any of them yet (focused on AA and upgrading new buildings to TH7 level).
I need 17.5k DE for BK level 4 but it’s been a slog the last few days and I just don’t have a lot of free time next couple of weeks. Winning that war would probably have done it :(
Gonna try and slog it out tonight
I need to learn to reply to comments better
On my main account I switch up the locations of my resources. So when I’m sitting on a lot of DE, it goes in the hardest-to-hit spot. When I’m sitting on a lot of elixir, I switch out the DE storage, etc.
The other thing I always try to do is grind towards one resource while keeping the others fairly low, so my base is never worth a ton of everything. If needed, dump gold/elixir into wall upgrades (which requires good timing of builders to have one free of course).
I decided to do away with the aggro and just buy the last 2k with gems
Jonneh – that was just unfortunate timing on the upgrades and BK grind.
Agree with Syncaine – I try to push one resource at a time.
Love the analysis Delpez.