WoW’s legacy on the MMO players mindframe.

Tobold has a post up today about training players in WoW, and what can be done to improve the sad state the PUG scene is in.

I think the PUG scene in WoW is hopeless though, that game is too far into easy mode to make any reasonable changes. Between guild hopping, welfare epics, PvP being quasi-solo, its no wonder WoW players don’t stop to teach others about agro, CC, builds, etc.

In direct contrast, EVE has an extremely helpful player base, old and new, and is often considered the most complex game to understand. In addition, one of the primary recruiting tools used by Corps is the offer to train new members in whatever field they wish to focus on. Corp hopping is rarely seen in EVE as well.

Which leads to the greater overall problem of designing a game that hand-holds you through everything and gives you rewards regardless of success or failure. Everything is all peaches until you add any amount of challenge, and all of a sudden a player is required to understand something beyond auto-attack.

That alone will be one of the worst legacies left by WoW, the massive dumbing down of MMOs. Outside of a much smaller minority, most WoW players expect everything for nothing, and generally get it. Oddly enough, even WoW was not originally as dumbed down as it is right now. The original WoW at release was, believe it or not, actually a bit more challenging. Still by far the easiest MMO out, but not in the state it is now. It will be interesting to see what the reaction will be when that majority tries something with a bit of challenge to it, or will all future MMOs with mass market dreams continue the ‘massive solo online’ trend set by Blizzard?

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User created content, who needs it?

Continuing today’s theme of linking to blogs from people who know a hell of a lot more about MMOs than I do, Raph Koster has a post today about the growing amount of user-created browser-based content that is hitting the net.

At the very beginning he says that the gamer side is waiting for Warhammer, but that there may be a second population more interested in “user-created content, microworlds, web-embedding”. I can’t help but ask, what do people see in that stuff? Aside from bringing us CS, DoTA and Tower Defense (the 3rd is an arguable contribution), what user-created content is truly an advancement of a genre, something that was more than a very temporary distraction? And how many times have you tried something user-generated and been seriously disappointed?

Is the market really there for this type of stuff, on a massive and profitable basis? Something tells me there must be, with some many companies trying it, but the gamer in me says most won’t bother or accept it, especially not when a price is involved.

Of course if I was putting money on it, I would bet on Raph being right over my opinion, but yea…

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The REAL war on terror.

Lum posted this a few days ago, but only today did I actually read the linked article, found here.

I’m not sure if saying it’s a bit surprising that congress has this much time to waste would be very accurate. Clearly this is not the first time we have seen/read a story of our tax dollars being abused, but since this is an MMO blog, this particular story hits a little closer to home.

All the usual signs of stupidity can be found in the story.

  • Second Life a ‘game’, check.
  • Online gaming makes you a terrorist and or child rapist, check.
  • Random ‘save the kids’ angle, check.
  • Goons dropping penis clouds on everyone… well I guess they took a day off.

Speaking of the Goons, why is congress not holding a hearing about their recent Jihad? Think about what a great publicity stunt that would be, Congressman X stepping up and stopping the great Jihad, saving all those poor miners from the evil Goonswarm, standing up for the little guy. (or Chinese bot farmer, but shhh) Missing opportunity really, some low level worker should get fired.

That would at least be one war on terror that would get some results.

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Awesome new WoW podcast!

The sad part is 75% of the WoW population would consider this a legit WoW podcast. Also sad is that about 50% of what was said, while meant to be funny, is actually true.

“If I want good PvP, is WoW for me?”

“You know, it really is.”
“You see people in Arena epics, and you think ‘wow that person must be really good at Arena’ and they really are!”

Haha, that whole bit killed me.

Great stuff guys.

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Interesting read about F2P gaming.

I’ll post my thought on this article tomorrow, no time today other than to say that if you are aiming for Nexon-like profits, go F2P. If you want to make serious money, the sub model in NA continues to dominate.

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Motivation for beta leaks.

The topic of beta leaks and people who break the NDA always comes up around the time a new MMO is set for release, and given the growth of the MMO genre, the scale and depth of these leaks has only increased.

While reading the leaks can at times be informative, and is almost always entertaining, the information presented is often from a jaded source, generally towards the negative. The first thing you have to consider is why the person would break NDA in the first place. Assuming we are talking about a legitimate closed beta with a limited number of people let in, getting in is often difficult, random, and much sought after. We have all seen the eBay listings of someone selling a beta account for ridiculous amounts, and those listings would not exist if there was no market for them. So if we assume an early beta account is indeed something of value, why would someone risk losing their account just to vent on a forum or website about something they themselves have nothing invested in?

One reason, and in my opinion the most common one, is the NDA breaker has already been banned from the beta, and hence has nothing to lose. This also leaves them with a bad taste in their mouth, to get kicked out, and so whatever faults the beta had (and it will, otherwise it would not be beta) will be blown up by the ex tester. The major advantage the ex tester has over those not in the beta is they can say practically anything, and it will be difficult for common fans to dispute what is said, having not played the game themselves. Other beta testers won’t risk breaking NDA to cast doubt on the information. If a developer makes a statement, and they rarely do, fans often see this as ‘the man’ covering up the truth, regardless of what is said.

Does that mean everything in a beta leak should be tossed out? No, as often even the most hate-filled rants are grounded in some bit of truth, however far stretched. But anything said should also be taken in context; in this case a beta. Casual fans would be surprised what gets added in the final months or weeks of beta, or how rough beta software can be in the early stages. Even knowing you are in a beta test, we are still game fans, and when something goes wrong, we react. Even if you are told a sword swing animation is not functioning properly, every time your character swings his sword you are going to notice that broken animation. Notice enough broken things, and it’s only natural that an overall broken impression begins to set in, even though you have been told to ignore those things for now.

In this regard I don’t envy developers. They need beta testers to ensure a higher quality product, yet at the same time they risk unjust negative press due to the leaks. Very rarely will someone post a beta leak and have it be a glowing review. If the beta is as good as a glowing review would make it out to be, odds are those beta testers are too busy playing and protecting their account to make a beta leak post/thread. If we look at the whole situation in that light, perhaps a lack of leaks can be taken as the best possible review.

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Top 30 silly names, maybe.

Crave has a nice (if incomplete) list of funny videogame names found here. I’ve played a few of those, and I must say the names always confused me. Worth looking over IMO.

I did enjoy the fact that of the 22 comments up when I read it, most were corrections about names or people defending a game. Got to love the videogame community.

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Unite casuals with the hardcore, don’t separate them.

Listening to the latest Drone Bay podcast, a thought came to me while listening to the ‘mail time’ section. A new player basically asked what he can do about older players having tons of money, and an inflated economy making it difficult to purchase better gear at reasonable prices. The response, which I agree with, was that in EVE inflation is not really an issue for most items, especially the early game stuff like frigates and cruisers. They also mentioned that EVE has multiple money sinks keeping the economy in check, chief among these being that ships blow up and are destroyed permanently, which happens very frequently in PvP.

This led me to thinking that generally PvP pilots tend to be the most hardcore overall players, the ‘raiding elite’ of most other MMOs. As EVE statistics have shown, the majority of players stay in Empire space and tend to do the PvE elements of the game, mission running or high-sec mining. The key to EVE’s amazing balance is that those Empire players (lets call them casuals) are not hurt by the ‘raiding elite’ PvP players, but in fact benefit from them. Ships and fittings need to be replaced; creating a demand for the goods casuals can produce either from mining or mission running. The PvP players benefit from the lower prices caused by constant supply from Empire players. A slowdown in either section would actually hurt the other, which is somewhat unique in the MMO space.

The almost direct opposite is the current balance in WoW, especially as that game attempts to shift towards PvP. The hardcore raiders are upset whenever Blizzard drops the difficulty to raid, or whenever new welfare items are introduced (like the new 70 blue set). The casuals are constantly upset that the game is tuned to the hardcore raiders, asking for easier access to raiding instances and complaining that PvP is unfair when they have to face characters in full high level epic gear. Whenever Blizzard helps one side, be it the hardcore or the casual, they seemingly hurt the other. Add a casual 5 man instance, the raiders will call it useless content. Add another raiding instance, the casuals demand content. More powerful PvP gear is introduced, the raiders get pissed. Useful PvP items found in PvE, PvP players get pissed. In some respects, no matter what Blizzard does, a large portion of their player base is going to feel slighted, more so than in most MMOs.

It’s a good lesson in MMO design however, that in order to really please both sides (casual and hardcore), its not about giving both sides equal development time, but rather making both side benefit whenever one gets a boost. Somehow a new top end raiding instance needs to benefit the casual crowd, and somehow new casual content needs to impact the hardcore crowd in a positive way as well. A game that provides such a base, like EVE, is going to have far less issue with its hardcore/casual divide.

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Daily quests, daily grind.

Now that 2.4 is out, many bloggers are posting their initial reactions to the patch, with most being overall positive. It seems the new area is a hit, and the players are enjoying the new daily quests that contribute to the big server event of opening up the island. All this talk of dailies got me thinking, why do so many people consider them such a great idea?

A daily quest, when you really break it down, is just like any other quest in the game, with the major difference that you can repeat it over and over for xp/gold/rep. Break it down a bit more, and most daily quests are little more than grinding out ‘collect x’ or ‘kill x’ tasks. So why when given the title of ‘daily’ do players so readily accept these tasks and congratulate Blizzard on a brilliant idea?

Is it really something as simple as the fact that dailies are easy, safe, 100% guaranteed rewards that are clearly presented to you? When you do a quest for the first time, you might not know exactly where to go or what to collect, but a daily solves this. A normal quest might also be too tough for you, but again a daily solves this. And some quests you don’t know what the reward will be until you complete it, but not so with a daily quest.

This leads me to believe that most MMO players are somewhat short sighted, or simply tricked into a new form of the same old grind. An xp bar tells me I need 1000xp to level, but it does not tell me how to go and get that xp. I know killing rats gives xp, but again I’m not told that’s the best way. A daily says “it’s a new day, repeat me”. And you accept, get a new ‘quest’ in your log, get a nice counter of how many rats you need to kill, and once you kill the set number of rats, you get a set reward. If you go out and just kill the rats on your own, you have no guidance on how many to kill, for how long, or exactly where to go to kill them. The daily removes all that for you. Plus tomorrow you get to safely repeat the process all over again.

To me dailies represent the exact opposite of what most MMO players generally request from content. We ask that it be new, different, exciting, challenging. We complain when we are given more ‘kill x’ ‘collect y’ quests, yet we cheer new dailies? And we cheer that Blizzard has given us the ‘opportunity’ to now repeat the same exact tasks 25 times a day, rather than just ‘limiting’ us to 10?

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Delays, windows, hype, and cake.

Warhammer Online has been delayed, again. Not a huge shock really, especially considering the whole ‘we are not making DAoC 2… ok fine we are’ design change, something I fully support. Hopefully at some point ‘soon’ anyone who buys a pre-order will get access to beta; that would be a nice summer diversion.

I was going to say this opens a nice window to return to LoTRO, but their expansion is also set to release in the fall. Depending on how long WoW remains entertaining, perhaps that LoTRO window will happen anyway. And of course there is that return to EVE that will inevitable happen (and the pull grows stronger daily).

And oddly enough, my remote interest in Age of Conan is rising. Hopefully they have an open beta soon, so I can go in and see what it’s all about. Somehow all the hype and pre-release info about that game has done nothing to spark my interest, and I’m not sure if that means I really don’t care or I’m just too focused on WAR and whatever game I’m currently playing.

Oh and that whole ‘cake is a lie’ thing is still out there…

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