MMO sounds (of your doom!)

Posted on September 28, 2009 by SynCaine

It’s difficult to really explain how big an impact sound has in DarkFall to anyone who has not played it, yet has played other MMOs that promote sound as being important. Usually in those games the sound is ‘important’ because an audio cue will tell you when to dodge or block, or alert you to a secret. If you miss the cue, you are likely not playing at maximum efficiency, but it’s not a make or break issue. Sound in DarkFall is deadly.

I was out farming some trolls near our clan city of Hammerdale, a location that is only a few steps away from an Air Elemental spawn. The Air Elementals however are not found on the ground, but rather on a floating island high above, accessible only by a floating platform that travels up and down on a regular interval (no fairy wings here). It’s something that unless you specifically look up, or you just happen to cross the platform’s location when it’s near the ground, you can entirely miss the whole thing as you pass by. That is, you could if no one is fighting the elementals; because if someone is there, you can hear them. Not only does the sound of combat travel a great distance, the sounds of magic being used is much easier to pick out, and the Air Elementals love to cast lots of noisy spells.

So as I was wrapping up with the trolls, I rode near the location of the Air Elementals and sure enough the sounds of combat can barely be heard from high above. The spawn itself is only three elementals, which makes it ideal for solo farming but a waste for two or more people. The drops are decent but not great, and generally it’s not a hugely popular spot (it’s somewhat hidden location no doubt helping in this regard). The plan was simple, jump and gank whoever is farming. As the Air Elementals are a glass cannon-type mob they deal some rather considerable damage, and most of the time they leave you heavily wounded after a fight.

So my adrenalin is now pumping as I slowly, slowly ride up the lift on my way to see exactly who is farming the Air Elementals, and in what shape they are in. A lot of things can go horribly wrong here. If the person farming is resting, they might be watching the lift location and if they see me riding up, they are going to nuke the hell out of me. They might also spot me before I want them to, and if that happens they can quickly mount up and ride away with little hope of being caught. And of course, I could catch them in-between spawns, we fight it out, and they beat me, taking all the loot I’ve been farming off the trolls in the process.

Finally at the top, I still hear the sounds of combat and casting, which is a good thing because it means the player is going to be focused on the mobs and is very likely to miss the sound of my character walking around to spot him. I’ve been to this spot to farm before, so I know the layout and what areas are best for creeping around. At one corner, I can look around and see the other player fighting while he can’t see me, and the plan now is to attack as soon as he kills the last Air Elemental. As luck would have it, he does this and ends at around 25% HP, with his back to me. Perfect. I sprint out, two-hander drawn, and rush up and swing away. After taking a few hits and dropping to 5%, he jukes me enough to get out of melee range, and manages to jump off the island. You can’t die from falling damage, so his 5% HP won’t factor into that, and I leap off the ledge in pursuit. As we fall, I switch to my bow and start shooting arrows downward, bullets-flying-as-you-fall Matrix style. Luckily for me I’m a crappy shooter, as I’m fairly sure if I killed him while falling his tombstone would have remained in the air (not 100% on this though).

We both land on the ground, and he quickly spawns his mount to make his escape. Before he gets more then a foot further, a well placed arrow hits him in the back and off his mount. Win. After some quick looting, I jump on his already-spawned mount and make my way home. It’s only at this point do I realize how tense I was that entire experience, all to jump someone at 25%. Sad and yet very satisfying at the same time, and all thanks to the sound actually having an impact in DarkFall. Good times.

Posted in Combat Systems, Darkfall Online, MMO design, PvP | 19 Comments

The RL housing grind wins this round

Posted on September 25, 2009 by SynCaine

Sorry for the lack of updates the last few days, house construction is almost finished and the amount of calls, paperwork, and bs one has to deal with in order to complete this whole process is unreal. Nerf RL housing grind please!

On a little side note, Aventurine seems to have FINALLY fixed the bank bug in DarkFall, meaning things actually stay in the location you put them when you re-open the bank or a bag. When you have hundreds of items in dozens of bags, that’s kind of important.  They also announced that EU to NA transfers will happen in about three weeks, and that EU characters will be able to keep all their skills and stats, but no items. That plus the October expansion should make for some interesting times in DarkFall very shortly. As I type this my character is grinding up his AoE magic protect spell in preparation…

Posted in Darkfall Online, Patch Notes, Random, Site update | 5 Comments

Under the bright lights

Posted on September 23, 2009 by SynCaine

As each day passes, DarkFall gets more and more carebear. First it was patch notes, then it was scheduled down time that actually stayed on or ahead of schedule, and now the final ‘slap in the face’, dev-to-fan communication. WTF is this, WoW (that’s a double joke, get it?)

Aventurine has hired some community reps to… you know, communicate with the community. They created a new forum section called Spotlight, which is a heavily moderated area intended to filter out the general ForumFall chatter and really focus on actual feedback and other community-related items. Items like, for example, linking to blogs that talk about DarkFall (hopefully this time around they don’t link any one-month ragequit blogs, oops), with the first EVA! blog being this amazing little space on the internet. I win, bow down!

The overall reaction to this whole initiative is rather priceless right now, as people are shocked that AV is actually reaching out and opening up the lines of communication. Plus we have these new people with their fancy green names (in this case, uncommon is better than rare) talking about patch notes before the patch comes out and other marvels.

AV is going soft man, and this is just one more step towards Trammel…

Posted in Darkfall Online, Patch Notes, Site update | 7 Comments

Launch Day: How to deal with day one in the post-WoW MMO space

Posted on September 22, 2009 by SynCaine

From an outsider’s perspective looking in, Aion’s launch seems to be having the same issue Warhammer Online had a year ago; dealing with the huge initial rush of players and tourists flooding the servers on day one. In the post-WoW MMO space, it’s more or less a given now that any majorly advertised AAA MMO is going to have to deal with this issue, and the current solution of server queues and character creation limitations seems like a rough deal for those who matter most; paying customers.

DarkFall, while certainly not on the user scale of Aion, dealt with the problem by limiting sales of the game for the first month or so, allowing new characters to enter the world at a set pace and re-distribute themselves before opening the doors once more. Current customers benefited at the expense of potential future customers. The luxury that Aventurine has over NCSoft is they don’t have to answer to other retailers, and so it’s up to them when to allow additional sales to open up. NCSoft can’t call up Gamestop or BestBuy and ask them to pull all copies of Aion off for the week because the servers are full. I’m also guessing, due to retailer contracts, they can’t start selling the game online-only, and then doing a ‘full’ release to brick-and-mortar stores later, but perhaps they could.

The problem itself is very easy to understand; the first day of any MMO is the day it will see the most users trying to get online at one time (unless the game is EVE or WoW and grows considerable after launch). You can’t just open enough servers to handle the first-day crowd because on day two it’s smaller, on week two it’s much smaller, and on month two it’s likely down 30%+ as the tourists move on. In any MMO, but especially one where population is critical (WAR and Aion), opening and closing servers left and right is asking for disaster. So what can be done?

For starters, we might as well end the ‘open beta’ charade and just call it paid pre-release for most games now, and since people in the beta have paid, why not get them on live servers? Unless you MMO gets a miracle patch on launch day (and if you do, you have more issues than just server pop), the end of beta is basically the launch-day game, so it might as well count. Allow players who pre-ordered before a given date two weeks or a month of play time on live servers, so that you mitigate the impact they will have once the boxed copy customers come online. Aion had 400k preorders, which is more than enough for 10 server (give or take), servers that can easily be avoided by boxed copy users looking for a truly fresh start. Guilds won’t have issues with surprise queues or character creation, members buying the boxed copy will still be able to play with their guild or friends, and overall you hopefully mitigate 50% of the launch-day crowd from all jamming in to see your game for the first time live.

The other solution would be to accept this trend, and have a plan ready for it. Go live with enough servers to handle all the day-one traffic, and then have tools in place to automatically merge servers as their population drops. The only real issue here would be with character and guild name overlap, as everything else in most of these games is static (this solution would obviously not work in DarkFall, as different guilds own different cities in different states of construction). Continue merging servers (quickly) until your population settles. The bonus here is you can merge one imbalanced server with (hopefully) the opposite imbalanced server, creating a better environment overall.

I prefer option one over option two, especially because the hardware to support option two might not be cheap depending on how your server clusters are arranged. The bonus with option one is that it further encourages pre-orders (perhaps you could even stagger that, so the earlier you pre-order the earlier you get in), which will give the company a better picture on what their games population might look like. Regardless of the choices made going forward, one thing is clear, and that’s that the current go-live model for AAA MMO’s is not working. It causes confusion and frustration among players and guilds, it creates imbalanced or over/under-populated server, and it leaves a poor first impression on everyone involved.

Posted in Age of Conan, beta, Darkfall Online, EVE Online, MMO design, SW:TOR, Warhammer Online, World of Warcraft | 6 Comments

Impact PvP: Are you part of the niche?

Posted on September 21, 2009 by SynCaine

Due to the length of both Tobold’s post about impact PvP and my reply, I’ll just quote him below and write my response here.

Doesn’t “meaningful PvP” automatically mean a form of PvP where you really hurt other players’ progress in some way? If every form of PvP which constantly resets and doesn’t hurt players all that much is considered meaningless, but people will quit games where losing PvP really hurts, how could meaningful PvP possibly work?

I think the above is a good summery of how many view PvP, and especially impact PvP, and the common misconceptions of WHY those who enjoy it continue to play. I’ll start by saying that I do believe impact PvP is a niche in the genre, one that far more people BELIEVE they want then actually do. That said, in 2009 the niche is big enough to support well-executed MMOs like DarkFall, or MMOs with impact PvP as a key element to their overall formula like EVE Online. Candy rainbow themeparks certainly have a higher market potential (how’s chasing that potential working out for TR or WAR?), but impact PvP is a viable choice for profit if the proper business plan, along with good game design, is followed.

The first thing about impact PvP is that yes, someone has to lose, and that loss CAN’T be trivial like it is in a themepark. But non-trivial does not directly mean the loss has to ‘hurt’, in that the loser now feels less inclined to continue playing and wants to quit. In DarkFall one of the biggest loses any clan can sustain is to have their city sieged and taken. A clan city is the center of everything you do, it’s a place you put a ton of work in to build up, and it becomes your ‘comfort zone’ in an otherwise harsh world. On the EU server many guilds broke and quit after losing their city, and this could lead someone to believe that the impact of such PvP ultimately leads to a games demise.

Yet on NA we are not seeing this happen, and many guilds that have lost cities relocate and reorganize. My take on this is that back on EU, a lot of the players playing back then THOUGHT they wanted an impact PvP game, yet when things got rough they tucked tail, packed up, and went back to whatever safe haven they came from. In short, those players were not part of the niche, and it took a little time for this to correct itself and for the real community to establish itself.

But even losing a city in DarkFall does not really ‘hurt’ another player. The character you have built up is still there, and most importantly, the PLAYER SKILLS you posses can’t be taken away. Sure your previous ‘comfort zone’ is now gone, but that just means you find another part of the world to live out of, learn and adjust to that, and in time either reclaim your home or find a new one. For those in the niche, while losing your home does indeed suck, it also has some benefits to it as well, and it’s new content for your clan driven not by a patch every 6 months but daily by the player community. A new location leads to new encounters, both PvE and PvP, a new area to familiarize yourself with, and whoever took your city is now someone you will be eager to strike back at, perhaps by allying yourself with someone if you need help.

But the real key to whether impact PvP works or not stems from this:

but people will quit games where losing PvP really hurts

This is true for most people (in life and in the MMO genre), but not of the impact PvP niche. You SHOULD go into DarkFall knowing that you will have bad days, or possibly even weeks. You will get ganked, you will be zerged, you will fight better players, and you will lose gear or even a city. If any of the above happening will make you quit the game, it’s not the right game for you. All of the above, while I still get pissed when they happens to me, are the reason I play the game to begin with. Dying in Warhammer or WoW won’t make me quit, but respawning for the thousandth time to rush back in pointlessly WILL make me quit once I grow bored, and I’ll grow bored far soon of that than the day I ragequit because someone took some pixel from me in DarkFall. I’ll fight like hell to protect those pixels, and in the realm of MMOs those pixels are ‘kind of a big deal’ compared to pixels in WoW/WAR, but for me any game that can draw the very real emotions of hate AND accomplishment is one worth playing, and DarkFall does that in spades. In the context of playing a game, I care far more about what happens in DarkFall than I ever did about Warhammer’s realm war.

In an MMO, non-impact PvP to me is like playing poker with monopoly money. The actual game might be the same, but I grow bored very quickly regardless if my stack of pretend money is growing or shrinking. People also play very differently, despite the rules being the same, as they will chase bad odds and call large bets, all because it’s ‘just for fun’. Nothing is LESS fun for me than having someone make a donkey call in poker because they don’t care about the odds and just want to see if they get lucky and catch something. Add in real money, be it for quarters or hundreds, and I’ll happily play for hours on end, and now I’ll welcome that bad player making donkey calls, because my ‘impact’ to his wallet is going to be very, very real.

I play for money in poker, I play to win in beer-league softball, and I enjoy impact PvP in my MMO. Are you part of that niche?

Posted in Darkfall Online, EVE Online, MMO design, PvP, RvR, Warhammer Online, World of Warcraft | 55 Comments

Majesty 2 quick hit.

Posted on September 21, 2009 by SynCaine

I just wanted to make a quick post and let everyone know that Majesty 2 is now out (I got my copy from Direct 2 Drive, got to love 1mb+ download speed), and having played it a decent amount on Sunday, it’s a spot-on update to the original. New graphics, new sound, new campaign, but same great take on the RTS genre. It’s very refreshing that much like Blood Bowl, the developers knew to leave a good thing alone and not try too hard to change things up. The original Majesty worked brilliantly, so why mess with that, especially considering how unique its style is already? Since I’ve already played it longer than an EG reviewer I won’t give it a score, but so far I’m very impressed with the single player experience. Hopefully multiplayer also delivers.

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Warhammer Online: The more Mythic talks, the less hope I have.

Posted on September 18, 2009 by SynCaine

Too much stuff going on today that I want to talk about, and on a Friday no less.

Jeff Hickman from Mythic talked at GDC about Warhammer Online and what he believes are some of the mistakes made with the game. While I don’t directly disagree with his three flaws, especially that making PvE braindead easy was a mistake; I don’t think WAR would be any more successful if Mythic had fixed all those issues on day one. Even if the PvE challenge was spot on, the economy was as awesome as EVE’s, and players were happily grouping and socializing like it was 2001 EQ, they would all still hit rank 40, see T4 RvR, and 75% would leave.

Now unless the article fails to mention him talking about RvR (and if he did, the writer should be fired), that aspect is not even addressed. Everything in the game is designed to prepare or filter you into RvR, ESPECIALLY the end-game city RvR, and despite almost everyone agreeing that it’s the weakest part of the game, it does not make the list of issues with WAR? When people think of WAR, they think RvR. When the RvR is broken, is it any wonder your game is struggling? That would be like if WoW had a terrible PvE game but had fun PvP and a great economy; would anyone care?

The biggest shame with WAR is that overall it’s a good game crippled by one major flaw. The graphics are very solid, the sound is good, it has one of if not THE best IPs in the fantasy space, and it’s combat system is in a good place between the hardcore system of a game like DarkFall and the easy combat of WoW. But hey, none of that is going to keep people around for 6+ months when your leveling is fast and soon everyone is at the cap and looking to do one thing; RvR. Why are you talking about the economy, the PvE, or how PQs are going to be in all MMOs going forward when day in day out people are leaving because of one thing and one thing only, Tier 4 RvR? Absurd.

I would bet that a large number of those who left WAR would love to come back if T4 was fixed, as I doubt many really burned out on the game, or even got to see it in action the few times the stars aligned and T4 worked. I’m also guessing not many quit because the economy was weak (gold has zero meaning in WAR, but does anyone even care? The MMO space already has a themepark where one of the rides is running an auction house mod, and other games with actual economies for players to test themselves on, wtf is WAR going to add here?), or players who quit because the PvE balance was off. Sure fixing those would be a nice side bonus, but it’s not the make or break issue here!

I believe more than any other MMO, WAR could easily pull off a comeback and get back to respectable subscription numbers, but that won’t happen until the needed miracle patch truly fixes T4 RvR. Until then, Mythic can tweak animations, PvE, the economy, and add in countless live events, and continue to watch as WAR slowly bleeds dead. But hey, PQs are going to be in WoW soon, huge win Mythic…

Posted in MMO design, RvR, Warhammer Online | 22 Comments

Blood in the sand: battle video

Posted on September 18, 2009 by SynCaine

Here is a quality video of the battle I talked about in this post. Most of what is recorded here is from the parts of the battle Apollo was not involved with, as we were working on the other side of the field. However near the middle of the video you do see the big hill we fought over and controlled, as well as a general understanding of the type of terrain Ruby offers.

If you don’t like death metal, I suggest you turn off the sound while watching, enjoy!

Posted in Darkfall Online, PvP, Random | 7 Comments

The carebears of DarkFall.

Posted on September 18, 2009 by SynCaine

At times (or maybe just on blogs/forums) we get too focused on the type of player we expect to play a certain MMO. WoW is for carebears, LotRO is for role players, DarkFall is for hardcore PvPers, Aion is for crossdressers, etc.  And while each game certainly has its target audience, WoW has its share of hardcore PvPers, DarkFall has some role players, and I’m guessing a crossdresser or two play LotRO.

The reason this came up is that last night Apollo had our first PvP training night, and the different playstyles really come out when you remove the unexpected and hectic nature of DarkFall PvP, and instead just focus on pure execution and learning from watching others. We have a solid core of what I would say are the hardcore PvP guys; the ones with above average character and player skills, the ones with a lot of PvP experience, and the ones who wipe the floor when dueling the ‘average’ player. Any guild that wants to be a factor needs these type of players; their the tip of the spear when it comes to group combat, they earn the guild respect from others, and they put fear into known enemies when they take the field. But even in a guild like Apollo, they are the minority.

Most of the 20+ players online last night were the ‘casual’ players (myself included), those who like to PvP, can hold their own against most and want to get better, but stand no chance vs the upper elite one on one. And even in our guild, we still had a few members online who sat out because they would rather focus on crafting or gathering during their time online. True honest-to-god carebears not only playing DarkFall, but playing it as a member of a major guild that’s part of a major alliance. And without that mix of players, the game would be far less interesting to play, as unlike a themepark DarkFall is less about what rides you can hop on and more about what those around you are doing. The PvP core might not interact with the gatherers regularly, but both groups are part of the guild and contribute to it both in-game and on a social level.

Could more be done to keep those not about PvP 24/7 interested and entertained, certainly. The next patch will add wandering mobs, further improvements to random rewards around the world, and generally more reasons to just go out and see what’s going on. More improvements to an already useful crafting system and some needed focus on naval combat should spice things up as well. Given the short but very successful track record for DF patches, one can only expect good things in October, be it for the hardcore PvPers or the carebears.

Posted in Aion, Combat Systems, crafting, Darkfall Online, Lord of the Rings Online, MMO design, PvP, World of Warcraft | 6 Comments

Aion end-game, way ahead of WoW and WAR.

Posted on September 17, 2009 by SynCaine

Found this interview about Aion Abyss PvP after following a few links. After reading it, the WoW PvP grind pre honor revamp sounds tame and fun compared to high-ranked Abyss ‘PvP’, and WAR’s keep swapping has NOTHING on Aion’s PvQ (Player vs Quest) end-game. At least during the old WoW grind you still had to PvP, you just had to run in a pre-made and play the same battleground for 16 hours a day for a few weeks. Sounds like in Aion once you get high enough, you can’t PvP and instead run quest after quest to ‘earn’ your PvP gear.

Since TheMercs quit DarkFall and moved to Aion (hard to keep your e-rep up when your exploited character are no longer miles ahead), any bets on how long it takes them to find some NPC exploit/dupe and reach Supreme Commander after the first few weeks, followed by a month or two of PvP rape and e-thuggery before they Merc it and quit?

Not that any of this is truly shocking, considering the idea behind Aion’s end-game has both a PvE element and a risk/reward ratio that favors not dying over fighting, and due to the PvE element allows for the PvP part to be bypassed. Somewhat funny is the line about PvP being the most fun at the lowest levels, sounds very WAR-like in that regard. I just wonder which game will find a fix for its broken end-game first.

Posted in Aion, beta, Combat Systems, Darkfall Online, MMO design, PvP, Warhammer Online | 41 Comments